Transcribed by: Divya Mendiratta
Gauri : Welcome
to Foundations TV everybody. Our guest today is Deepti Navaratna. Welcome to
Foundations TV Deepti.
Deepti : Thank
you Gauri. Thanks for having me over.
Gauri : Oh absolutely,
a pleasure to have you. I’ve enjoyed our conversation off camera too, but now
let me introduce you to everybody. Deepti, as most of you know is a beautiful
woman of our community, a beautiful Carnatic musician as well. She has a lot of
awards in her name, including a lot of ‘All India Radio National Awards’ from India;
while she was there. She also is a proud achiever of the ‘Cambridge Arts
Council Grants’, which is helping her with some of her unique and entrepreneurial
projects that she has taken up recently. And she has also been awarded the prestigious
‘Saint Botolph Emerging Artist Award’, which has helped her. I guess you are
part of the ‘New England Conservatory of Music’ as well; so that has been
helpful for you as well. And Deepti besides being a Karnataka Musician, you are
also a Neuroscientist.
Deepti : Yes, I’m
split in the head.(laughing)
Gauri : And she
is good at both, I have to say. Because she has authored many papers, and has
been cited in many different write ups as well; in her field of Neuroscience.
We will touch that later, but first lets come back to Carnatic music. I want to
hear a little bit about your journey as a musician. When you began. And just
little bit about your roots may be.
Deepti : I was
born and raised in Bangalore. I started learning Carnatic music when I was 4.
Growing up in Bangalore, Bangalore has a vibrant cultural scene. It was easy to
grab a concert of Carnatic music, go concert hopping to another Hindustani
classical music show, or chill at a pub with some cool jazz. I think that environment
has also shaped some of what I do today. In terms of my parents, there was no
immediate musician in the family, but I was born to an Aeronautical Scientist
and an Educational entrepreneur, just like you Gauri.
Gauri : Wonderful.
Deepti : So I guess,
the impetus on scientific rigors, and the value of lifelong learning, of
creative impressions, those are the values that I imbibed from my parents. And
I guess those value have gone way in shaping what I do, and what I value even
today.
Gauri : So there
is little bit of entrepreneurship that you inherited from your mother. And the
music and creative side from your mom.
Deepti : That’s
right.
Gauri : And then
your exposure to jazz, I think is kind of evident in your music. I’ve heard
some of your music. There’s a contemporary aspect to it, which is beautiful. That’s
a lovely fusion of Carnatic music with contemporary verse.
Deepti : And just
like they say, ‘ not all those who wander are lost’. The broader my exposure
got, the deeper my appreciation for Carnatic music happened.
Gauri : That does
give us a little glimpse of your Indian background. So tell us more about your journey.
What brought you to the US?
Deepti : I came to
US to do graduate school. I enrolled in the University of New Mexico, for a PhD
in cell Biology and Neuroscience. I guess I did never let go of my roots.
Moving to the United States actually forced me to value what I had, and what I
had already learned in India. So while I was doing PhD, I was also teaching a
course called the ‘Music of South India’.
Gauri : So you
started teaching right way, when you came here?
Deepti : Right.
So I designed and developed the course. It was a music appreciation course for
Americans and world music enthusiasts.
Gauri : And where
were you teaching that course?
Deepti : That was
offered as part of the music department, at the University of New Mexico. So I
was pretty fortunate.
Gauri : Wow.
That’s impressive. I’m sure you had the drive and zeal to do something like
that.
Deepti : I was
pretty resolute about two things. One is, I have to move forward, but to fly
high you have to dig deep.
Gauri : It has
such a beautiful meaning.
Deepti : So I
didn’t wanted to let go of my roots, but I also wanted to move forward. And I
wanted to bridge a life that accommodates both.
Gauri : Lovely.
So that was your first musical endeavor here in US. And then where did you go
from there?
Deepti : After my
PhD I moved to Boston. And Boston with its extremely thriving Indian community,
and all its opportunities, I was like a kid in a candy store. I wrote several
grants. I produced my first album ’Aarohanam’, which is just a CD of
traditional Carnatic music. I’m thankful that I got the ‘Utah Arts Council Award’
for that. That supported the production of my first CD. As soon as I moved to
Boston, I was also very aware of the thriving contemporary and world music
scene in Boston. I wanted to join the ‘New England Conservatory’, which is
every classical musicians dream; somewhat. And at the ‘New England Conservatory’,
I couldn’t have asked for anything better.
Gauri : And you
were the first Carnatic Musician in there, Right ?
Deepti : That’s
right. I was really fortunate to have been the first Carnatic Musician in the
history of the ‘New England Conservatory’, to join that program. The program
itself is designed to catalyze a musical innovation, and scholarship for
traditional artist, who want to take the music to diverse audiences, to diverse
communities. And the program is designed for, what they say, musical entrepreneurs
of tomorrow.
Gauri : That’s
impressive. You have gone beyond the community, you have represented our
community, beyond what anyone can imagine. That is really commendable. You make
us all proud.
Deepti : Thank
you.
Gauri : I know
you have a lot of achievements in your name. Which is your favorite one? What
was the high moment of your life?
Deepti : I guess
when I was 18 winning the ‘All India Radio National Music Award’ was a big shot
in the arm. This gives you a lot of recognition, and sort of boosts your
spirit, that if you continue to learn and invest in your own arts, you can do
something worthwhile with it. And I think the day I heard from ‘New England
Conservatory’ that I had actually gotten into that program, was another high
for me. But on more personal note I feel my biggest achievement has been, that
I have been obstinate enough to stay close to what my true motivations are. I
think my purpose is to engage myself in creative endeavors; be it science or
music. I see them as high complimentary activities, which are built on the same
urge to be creative. So I’ve been obstinate enough to not let go of that
motivation, and not fall into any labels of boxes. I believe if you are
outlier, that difference is what will help you make difference. So you sort of
learn to be an outliers of sorts.
Gauri : That an
amazingly inspiration message. I’m absorbing it as you are saying it. That is
something that I’m going to hold onto for the rest of my life. I’m sure people
who are hearing you today are going to really be affected by what you just
shared. To have that consistency, and that drive and that determination that I’m
going to make it.
And in the light of that, in the same sequence of things you
have an entrepreneurial project coming up and some workshops. So why don’t you
tell us about those.
Deepti : The ‘Carnatic
Alchemy’ project was born as a musical platform for innovation, sustainability
in arts, and to provide a channel that can catalyze community engagements. So
like it’s said, it takes a village to raise a child, it takes many hands, both
within and outside the community. Arts councils, government, and lot of arts
administrative policies which have to work in tandem to actually sustain
musical innovations. So the ‘Carnatic Alchemy’ project was basically born with
the goal to take musical innovations to diverse communities in the Massachusetts
area, and beyond hopefully one day.
Gauri : I’m sure.
Deepti : So we
will do concerts, we will promote the creation of new music. We already have a
concert coming up on February 22nd, which we will get to in a
minutes.
Gauri : Yes, I’m
really looking forward to that one.
Deepti : And we
will also engage in community activities. And we have announced the Carnatic
singing circles workshops, wherein we will introduce the ‘Nada Yoga principles’
or the yogic philosophy behind Carnatic Music to Yoga Spiritual audience. So we
have a wide range of activities planned around the idea of taking traditional
sounds to diverse audiences.
Gauri : So this ‘Carnatic
Alchemy’ project that you spoke of, is Cambridge Arts Council funded?
Deepti : Yes,
definitely. Just two days back I got the news about the grant from Massachusetts
Culture Council, basically promotes creative economy, as they call it, in the
area, and they invest in artist, whose project goals align with the broader
arts policies for Massachusetts. So this is big recognition. I’m deeply grateful.
Gauri : That’s
great. Congratulations.
Deepti : Thank
you. The singing circles workshop hopefully, in years to come,
we will see that
being held in assisted living centers, in libraries, in prisons and anywhere
there’s a need to contemplate with sound.
Gauri : I think that’s everywhere. Music is language
that touches hearts. And makes such a huge difference in people’s lives. So all
the places that you just mentioned, I think can really benefit from something
like that. That’s great! So this is not just a concert, but is like a whole
umbrella that’s going to hold so many different things. Does this project has
an end date as well, or is this something like an ongoing motive?
Deepti :
Hopefully it will go on and on.
Gauri : That’s
great.
Deepti : In
addition to the concert, we are trying to take Carnatic music to different
communities in and around New England area. We have come up with, what I called
the ‘Carnatic Alchemy prize’. And this year’s competition is for children and
adults. And it’s based on the musical works of M.S. Subbulakshmi. And as you
all know she was the ‘true Alchemist’. 50 years ago she did category spanning work,
which is bewildering to me. Sitting here today and going through the wide
spectrum of work she has done. So in her honor we have come up with this
competition. And I hope that will help raise awareness of Carnatic music, even
with North Indian communities, and greater Indian communities.
Gauri : I’m sure.
First of all I was totally wowed when I read you biography. And now listening
to you today during this interview, it’s kind of a reinforcement. It’s not just
beautifying your soul through your own passions, developing yourself, but it’s
also radiating that energy out into the community, and even beyond the
community. Taking it out to various diverse groups of people, and being able to
use that energy, in very constructive and in a very reformative manner. And there’s
an encouragement factor with the completion. So there’s a whole lot of
different things. What is that you are not doing Deepti, you are doing everything?
Deepti : Not
sleeping enough I guess.
( Chukles )
Gauri : You got
to take care of yourself, that’s important.
Deepti : And
looking ahead, I want to put my mind where my heart is, so when I say this, I’m
currently working on a study that involves, using south Indian classical rhythm
training for dyslexic children. So you have a learning center here as well. I’m
sure it resonates well with your goals as well.
Gauri : It does.
Deepti : In the future,
I plan to expand ‘Carnatic Alchemy’ project into education developmental
challengers. So as a musician, as a student of sound, you are exposed to a
certain vantage points. And as a Neuroscientist, you get to evaluate the same
human experience on a totally different level. And I plan to make the most of
it. And hopefully apply some of my musical training towards learning
disabilities for dyslexic children. We’ll have a kick starter campaign coming soon.
Gauri : I love
the way you call yourself ‘student of sound’.
Deepti : I’ve
always been.
Gauri : Speaking
of you a little bit more. You a have beautiful CD that you are also releasing
on 22nd. So including that, what else can the audience expect on that
fabulous event that’s coming up, which I’m very looking forward to?
Deepti : The
concert on the 22nd is called the ‘Cranatic Cadenzas’. It will be a
concert for new music, its Cranatic inspired music. If you are world music
enthusiast, and you want to check out a whole new form of voice and
instrumental orchestration, then this your concert. If you have never heard
Carantic music then definitely this is your show. If have never heard any
music…
Gauri : This is
the place to go, and enjoy, and appreciate it. So whatever you are in this
ladder, you better come and experience it yourself.
Deepti : On more
serious note the concert will release my first CD of contemporary classical
music.
Gauri : Congratulations.
Deepti : So as a
traditional musician you use to do the music in a certain model. So as a South Indian
classical vocalist, you sing with a ‘Violin’ and ‘Mridangam’. This music takes
the same idea, same aesthetics, but cast in a chamber classical format. Western
Classical music also has certain models of music making. So we take the music
from one model, and switch it to another model, and Bingo, that makes for some
alchemist experiences.So that’s the soul behind the CD and the experiment. And
so the CD ‘Ka’ was a collaboration with a Indian American composer at Holy Cross
college, Shirish Korde. I’m very happy that the first CD of this experiment has
actually culminated and is out. Hopefully you all will be able to join me and
come to the concert.
Gauri : Absolutely.
You’ve done so massive projects, all along, since you have stepped into this
country. You have some great achievement. I know it’s not easy to plan
something, and be able to execute your plans, and to be able to accomplish so
much. Definitely congratulations to you for everything that you done so far.
And all the best for your upcoming event, as well as for the release of the CD.
I will certainly own a copy of that one.
Deepti : Thank
you so much Gauri.
Gauri : Thanks
for coming to Foundations TV.
Deepti : My
pleasure.
Gauri : And
before we end the video, I do want to give credit to ‘Smita’s Boutique’ for the
outfit that I’m wearing.
Deepti : You look
lovely.
Gauri : And you
look so pretty too, I love the way we coordinated. Thank you so much for
coming.
Deepti : The
pleasure was totally mine
